Ethel's comment reminded me I should post an update. We have a plan now.
1. Don't try to go through the school unless they are extremely willing to bend over backwards. If you are in Texas, don't bother. Texas has a minimum requirement for children that are gifted, especially in the 10-13 age group, that is absolutely useless. You're better off on your own.
2. Children over the age of 10 cannot have a proper IQ test done. It's useless for them. They'll max out the test even if they are only slightly gifted. Duke University hasa talent search every year. They help you get your child in to take the SAT. While many of us think SAT and get scared, this is a better measurement of your childs abilities. What they cannot answer tells them as much as what they can. I'll be signing H up for that when it comes around. The score is not a permanent part of their record at this age, unless you call up afterward and specifically request it. However, why? I mean, if your kid can pass it at 12, then it won't be a problem later.
3. If you DO live in Texas, here's a link that finally helped me tremendously: http://www.txgifted.org/displaycommon.cfm?an=1&subarticlenbr=36 (Texas Association for Gifted and Talented Advocacy. If you don't live in Texas, here is a link that will help you find your state group if you have one: http://www.nagc.org/index.aspx?id=609&gbs
And here's a wonderful site just full of resources: http://www.hoagiesgifted.org/identification.htm
4. Don't, under any circumstances, go beat the living shit out of the school that does not possibly understand what your child needs no matter how much you try to explain it to them. This is really not meant to sound conceited, but they will never understand. Ever. Having a gifted child, no matter how gifted (little or profound) is a whole new entity. The school cannot leave the labeling of children behind, and you are just going to get a headache or go to jail. I know, you'd think noone, especially a school principal or counselor, could possibly be that stupid as to not realize children are all individuals with different needs. Yes, they are, that stupid I mean.
Later, I will set up a special links section with all the wonderful places I'm finding. I tell you, the minute you stop dealing with the school is the minute doors open. If they are being less than friendly, find one of these state advocacy groups, they will tell you waht your state is responsible for helping. Then take that, and MAKE the school help, if you can. If you live in Texas, I'm sorry, our options are extremely limited.
Ethel, I'll never come to New York, too damn cold up there and I can't smoke LOL
Friday, April 27, 2007
Thursday, April 19, 2007
My daughter has a problem
My oldest girl is a genius...I'm pretty certain she's a genius, I do know her Iowa tests came back showing she could easily work at an 8th grade level (she's in 5th) and in some subjects work at a much higher level...try college. Ok, so I'm kind of bragging too. But it causes problems.
I understand these problems, I AM a genius. Let's pay attention for just a minute, I AM, a tested genius. I, however, am a definite ditz, that requires no testing. My IQ is high, but I forget everything and am more likely to find my glasses in the freezer and supper on my desk than the other way around. i don't know why, but this has happened. And I spent HOURS looking for my glasses, apparently the meat on the desk seemed perfectly normal. Well, up until I looked on my desk later and said "Why is there raw meat thawing out on my desk?" The point is, my IQ tests out at genius, I'm a fucking nitwit a good portion of the time. IQ is just a number, if you do nothing with it. It means less than the ant that you stepped on when you were mowing. The point is I AM a genius technically speaking, and why, do you ask, am I not some well known scientist or some such? Well, I lay that at the feet of several. The educational system is not cut out for geniuses. Your choices are homeschooling and skipping grades and remaining in your own grade. None were presented as options for me. The schools I attended otherwise had no idea WHAT to do with me. I spent a lot of time in trouble. My family had no idea what to do with me. I was obviously highly intelligent, but I was a troublemaker. And I had no idea what to do with me. School was miserable, mom couldn't homeschool, and ONCE they offered for me to skip a grade, 2nd. I cannot, and do not, fault my mother for saying no. I'm not sure if I agree or not, but I completely understand her objections and she was only trying to do what's best for me. My life in school was misery, I pissed off the kids, they didn't "get" me. I pissed off the teachers, they thought I was a smart ass. I pissed off the principal, I BECAME a smart ass. I distanced myself from my peers, and eventually became what you see now. A highly intelligent person, staying home to take care of the children, who cannot deal with the world at all and can't find her glasses in the freezer (I don't wear glasses anymore, but that's beside the point).
And now, here comes my oldest girl, trying to follow in my footsteps. She has the exact same problems, and I have a new set of problems. I have homeschooled, I loved it. H is in school because she wanted to be. Right off they moved her to the gifted classes...she's still having problems. Not as many, but still the same problems. To say the school is ill-equipped to deal with her is the understatement of the century. The principal's suggestion? Dumb her down so she can make friends. Ok, that's not exactly what he said. What he said is to encourage her to at least fake an interest in clothes and hair to make friends. So I talk to her and she doesn't WANT to. And why the fuck should I make her more miserable? She has 2 friends, she's happy with those two. All she wants from the other kids is to leave her the hell alone. My husband and I have discussed homeschooling again. I'm a huge advocate in homeschooling, but in this case I'm not sure if it's the right thing to do. Her interaction with other children has IMPROVED since she's been in school. Maybe not by 100%, but even the teacher has noticed that since she was moved into the gifted classes, she does have it easier. To me that suggests she just needs more people who understand her, of her age, or around it. I've checked, there are no progressive type schools in the area. There is a Montessori school here, but in the state of Texas, homeschool is considered private school. You don't have to have a degree to homeschool. At the moment I'm all for taking a look at the place and getting some credentials myself. My husband says "for allw e know a janitor can be teaching those classes". Well as far as I'M concerned, if they are learning how to clean, a janitor is the best person for those classes. I don't know, his point has merit. I do not disagree that we shouldn't care about WHO is teaching the classes, however, I do not agree with his action of just blowing the whole thing off completely without looking into it. Skipping grades, not an option. It would do more harm than good. You cannot take ANY child out of a child setting and then just throw them into a teenage setting. I don't give a damn how smart they are. H is way too sensitive for the type of abuse she would have to undergo.
Quite frankly, I think the best thing is to get her tested. While IQ may not be the end all and be all, it IS an indication of which extreme you are working under. If she is only mildly higher than her classmates, skipping A grade will not hurt her. If she is as highly intelligent as the principal seems to suggest, then the Texas school system has NOTHING to offer her at all, except boredom and misery. But damn the testing is so expensive. And it's not a matter of I won't be able to pay for some luxury item, it's a matter of we're going to have to get get considerably behind on the bills to get this kind of testing done. Something I don't see as benefitting her either. No child left behind huh? Seems my child will be left way behind of her own capabilities. I suppose I could join some group of parents of gifted kids, but most of them require testing to prove the child is gifted. So even they don't really want to help with these kids. The first step is to identify them. Not leave them languishing away in some school getting in trouble constantly. And I'm not talking about getting sent to the principal trouble. I was suspended several times.
Well, I'm just friggin clueless. I'm looking it up, but it's a great big circle jerk. Not to mention not being sure of where to look. Can't get help without the testing, can't get testing without help...Do the words "fuck you" come to mind...indeed they do....
I understand these problems, I AM a genius. Let's pay attention for just a minute, I AM, a tested genius. I, however, am a definite ditz, that requires no testing. My IQ is high, but I forget everything and am more likely to find my glasses in the freezer and supper on my desk than the other way around. i don't know why, but this has happened. And I spent HOURS looking for my glasses, apparently the meat on the desk seemed perfectly normal. Well, up until I looked on my desk later and said "Why is there raw meat thawing out on my desk?" The point is, my IQ tests out at genius, I'm a fucking nitwit a good portion of the time. IQ is just a number, if you do nothing with it. It means less than the ant that you stepped on when you were mowing. The point is I AM a genius technically speaking, and why, do you ask, am I not some well known scientist or some such? Well, I lay that at the feet of several. The educational system is not cut out for geniuses. Your choices are homeschooling and skipping grades and remaining in your own grade. None were presented as options for me. The schools I attended otherwise had no idea WHAT to do with me. I spent a lot of time in trouble. My family had no idea what to do with me. I was obviously highly intelligent, but I was a troublemaker. And I had no idea what to do with me. School was miserable, mom couldn't homeschool, and ONCE they offered for me to skip a grade, 2nd. I cannot, and do not, fault my mother for saying no. I'm not sure if I agree or not, but I completely understand her objections and she was only trying to do what's best for me. My life in school was misery, I pissed off the kids, they didn't "get" me. I pissed off the teachers, they thought I was a smart ass. I pissed off the principal, I BECAME a smart ass. I distanced myself from my peers, and eventually became what you see now. A highly intelligent person, staying home to take care of the children, who cannot deal with the world at all and can't find her glasses in the freezer (I don't wear glasses anymore, but that's beside the point).
And now, here comes my oldest girl, trying to follow in my footsteps. She has the exact same problems, and I have a new set of problems. I have homeschooled, I loved it. H is in school because she wanted to be. Right off they moved her to the gifted classes...she's still having problems. Not as many, but still the same problems. To say the school is ill-equipped to deal with her is the understatement of the century. The principal's suggestion? Dumb her down so she can make friends. Ok, that's not exactly what he said. What he said is to encourage her to at least fake an interest in clothes and hair to make friends. So I talk to her and she doesn't WANT to. And why the fuck should I make her more miserable? She has 2 friends, she's happy with those two. All she wants from the other kids is to leave her the hell alone. My husband and I have discussed homeschooling again. I'm a huge advocate in homeschooling, but in this case I'm not sure if it's the right thing to do. Her interaction with other children has IMPROVED since she's been in school. Maybe not by 100%, but even the teacher has noticed that since she was moved into the gifted classes, she does have it easier. To me that suggests she just needs more people who understand her, of her age, or around it. I've checked, there are no progressive type schools in the area. There is a Montessori school here, but in the state of Texas, homeschool is considered private school. You don't have to have a degree to homeschool. At the moment I'm all for taking a look at the place and getting some credentials myself. My husband says "for allw e know a janitor can be teaching those classes". Well as far as I'M concerned, if they are learning how to clean, a janitor is the best person for those classes. I don't know, his point has merit. I do not disagree that we shouldn't care about WHO is teaching the classes, however, I do not agree with his action of just blowing the whole thing off completely without looking into it. Skipping grades, not an option. It would do more harm than good. You cannot take ANY child out of a child setting and then just throw them into a teenage setting. I don't give a damn how smart they are. H is way too sensitive for the type of abuse she would have to undergo.
Quite frankly, I think the best thing is to get her tested. While IQ may not be the end all and be all, it IS an indication of which extreme you are working under. If she is only mildly higher than her classmates, skipping A grade will not hurt her. If she is as highly intelligent as the principal seems to suggest, then the Texas school system has NOTHING to offer her at all, except boredom and misery. But damn the testing is so expensive. And it's not a matter of I won't be able to pay for some luxury item, it's a matter of we're going to have to get get considerably behind on the bills to get this kind of testing done. Something I don't see as benefitting her either. No child left behind huh? Seems my child will be left way behind of her own capabilities. I suppose I could join some group of parents of gifted kids, but most of them require testing to prove the child is gifted. So even they don't really want to help with these kids. The first step is to identify them. Not leave them languishing away in some school getting in trouble constantly. And I'm not talking about getting sent to the principal trouble. I was suspended several times.
Well, I'm just friggin clueless. I'm looking it up, but it's a great big circle jerk. Not to mention not being sure of where to look. Can't get help without the testing, can't get testing without help...Do the words "fuck you" come to mind...indeed they do....
Wednesday, April 18, 2007
Idiots
Oh yeah, like that's a new title. You come here, you must be looking for daily derogatory comments on the stupidity of human beings. Virginia Tech, let's go THERE. But I'm not going to talk about the shootings. I'm sorry, but if you want me to get riled up at yet ANOTHER psycho, you're sorely mistaken. Quite frankly, I'm pro-death penalty. Before you turn on your wittle knee-jerk screams, realize something: If we KNOW who did it and they did it on this level, they are trash. And do we sit around poking trash? No, we take it out to the dumpster and forget about it. I don't understand why on earth people see death as a torment. It's not, bam, it's over. That's not torture. Torture is making them live, in prison, with men who rape them, living in fear of being "shanked". Of course, we're talking about society that would rather starve Terry Shiavo to death rather than just give her an overdose of some nice drug that makes you go to sleep. Quite frankly, this country sucks when it comes to caring for it's citizens. For a group of people who supposedly don't want to "torment" others, we are ALL about tormenting in the name of progress. Here's a little newsflash for you: 1. Death is not torment. If done correctly, such as say, with a morphine overdose, there's not even any pain. 2. You are some sick fucks that approve of starving someone to death or sticking them where they can be raped and fucked with until they become even worse than they were when they came in. And then to top it all off, you actually BITCH about the cost of maintaining their new homes! And before attacks of what an imhumane, no-respect-for-human life worm I am, maybe you should see it from my point of view: Of course I have no respect for human life, I have respect for human BEINGS. For all that I think most of you can't seem to put their pants on without drooling on them, I don't want to see anyone suffer. A fool that can go to a school and shoot it up has no respect for human beings. He doesn't care about you, he's an animal. He cannot overcome his he-man instincts, in this case "ugh ugh, my woman ugh ugh". If you want to support this guy until he dies of old age, being abused in our prison system YOU pay the taxes, leave me out of it. I'm not in the business of making a monster even more monsterous so he can come kill MY family.
Which brings me to yet another point: I'm not fond of guns myself. There's no real skill involved (yes, I have shot guns. That's two words, I have done the act of shooting guns. I don't own guns). I prefer something with some skill and work to it. I own swords. However, I don't want guns banned, illegalized, or so hard to get you have to suck the president's dick to get one. You know why we have the right to bear arms: So the government is scared of us. And if they ever get not scared, we have the means to fix that. I don't know if you noticed it, but there are people in this world that want to rule you completely (Saddam Hussein, Osama Bin Laden, Hitler, Stalin, am I ringing any bells here people?). And eventually we're going to have one in our country because you people are a bunch of pussies. I mean, c'mon, Saddam Hussein and his guys were WAY outnumbered by the populous and they were too big of pussies to bring him down. If such a person gets in charge here, OUR FAULT. And while I may not own a gun, I want to be able to get my hands on one fairly quickly. And if I don't, well I hope there are still some Americans left that want to take that person down. Now, you know our military, and if we were ever to get such a person in office, then you should realize that without an equalizer we'll never be able to take them without huge losses of life. I would hope we'd try, but it will be devestating going up against a tank with a baseball bat. Not to mention, any ruler that wants to take away our guns, we should be very afraid of. That person wants unhindered access to a slave population. I am sure YOU think we are too progressive for that and for a revolution, I however am quite willing to realize the foibles of human beings, and that we're not too progressive. We're talking of a group of people who haven't stopped hating, they choose more socially acceptable ways of hating (wishing violence on smokers here lately guys?) Human beings are more than capable of trying to rule over others, and I have proof: Domestic violence. Put that guy in charge of a country, do you really think he's going to treat YOU better than his wife? And don't give me that checks and balances bullshit, hasn't worked to well LATELY now has it? It's quite easy for me to foresee the appearance of a dictator before the end of my own life. Because look at how far the current administration has pushed things and you can't even get the balls up for an IMPEACHMENT. Anyone else is going to look at that and see what I see: Not only will you cheer as you vote a dictator into office, you'll HELP him take your rights away. Fuckin' morons. Our educational system is so fucked up you don't remember how Hitler became the leader of Germany.
So onto my last point: You fools really believe that making guns illegal will help a damn thing. OMFG. You ARE morons. Hello, War on Drugs? Huge War on Drugs, we have guys whose job is to do nothing but catch folks bringing drugs into the country. How come I can take a half hour drive and score any drug under the sun? Oh yeah, that's working out REALLY well. You really think, that a guy determined to go out and cause as much damage as possible in the name of his cause is really going to be stopped by LAWS? Because if you do, you're a bigger idiot than I thought! I mean, he's already on his way to break a couple of laws, do you really think he's going to stop and say "Oh shit, guns are illegal, gotta ditch this plan". As Sophisticat so aptly pointed out (link to your right), people determined to do damage go where? WHERE THERE ARE NO GUNS! So some of you will say he was looking for a chick and he went where the chick was. Well, if the chick had been at a police station, do you really believe he'd have gone THERE and shot up the place? I'd be willing to bet he would have at least thought twice about it, and I'm pretty confident he'd have thought "fuck that". These guys want to go out on THEIR terms. Just because a guy is suicidal doesn't mean it doesn't matter WHERE their suicidal. Case in point, terrorists can be suicidal in the name of a cause..does that mean they will go home and kill theirselves? Hell no, proof, 9/11. They go where they can suicide with a point. It's pointless to suicide in a police station. You'd most likely never meet your main objective. (Actually, the part Sophisticat pointed out is that these people never shoot up police stations because police stations have guns. *I* took it a step further and this is in no way saying he agrees with me.) Only a complete moron could possibly believe that taking away people's guns will stop criminals. Instead it will only declare open season on the populous. Look, I'm from Texas (yeah well, that's not why I support gun ownership. I have my own brain, TYVM and I detest guns, but I'm not so stupid as to not see where their positives are), I see a few things. Like, if you own a gun, you're less likely to get robbed. And generally you only get robbed ONCE, when you shoot the SOB. People tend to see you shoot a guy and think "Shit, then he'll have no problem shooting me too". Not everyone wants to die for a cause or a tv. While you're thinking to yourself "What about all the innocent folk that were accidentally shot with a gun" I can point out the times a citizen with a gun saved a life. And don't bring up that bullshit about "But kids accidentally shoot each other". Would you like to know why? Because YOUR a jackass. EDUCATION. My children can be left alone with guns, except the 1 year old, but in a year, he can be left alone with one too. And why can we leave OUR kids alone with guns? EDUCATION. My kids have always been taught that GUNS are NOT TOYS. They have toy guns, but they recognize the difference between a toy and the real thing, and the one time they saw a toy, we'd already taught them "better safe than sorry" and they didn't touch it. Why? Because education stops a lot of tragedies, and I'm not afraid to RAISE my children to adulthood instead of protecting them from society. I PREPARE my kids for real life. And in real life you should NEVER pick up a gun and investigate it. ASSUME it's what it looks like, a tool that can greatly harm people. It's not different from teaching them not to hit people with daddy's golf clubs. Children are exposed to potential weapons all their lives, and some are quick weapons. Drop a toaster in your bath, not quite as fast as a gun, but faster than stabbing someone and you can completely take them by surprise. So how many kids go dropping toasters into bathtubs "on accident"?
Which brings me to a point I didn't think of: With the fact that you can get on the internet and in less than a minute have the recipe for making your very own homemade bomb, do you really think the lack of access to guns is going to be a big crimestopper? I mean really, how many people can you shoot in a minute vs how many you can blow up in 15 seconds. These people ALWAYS find a way. I suppose you'd have felt much better IF by chance gun illegalization worked, if this guy would have had a bomb instead? We lost at least 32 human beings and what 20 hurt but recoverable with A gun. Bomb? I definitely say the loss of life would be considerably higher.
I hope I've made SOMEONE out there think all this out. I'm not the best speaker in the world, but anyone with half a brain has a good starting off point on each subject. Maybe it's time to abandon the knee jerk screams and put some thought into the actual intelligence (or lack of) in your positions. Of course, many of you won't, you're too stupid, but hey, here's hoping...
Which brings me to yet another point: I'm not fond of guns myself. There's no real skill involved (yes, I have shot guns. That's two words, I have done the act of shooting guns. I don't own guns). I prefer something with some skill and work to it. I own swords. However, I don't want guns banned, illegalized, or so hard to get you have to suck the president's dick to get one. You know why we have the right to bear arms: So the government is scared of us. And if they ever get not scared, we have the means to fix that. I don't know if you noticed it, but there are people in this world that want to rule you completely (Saddam Hussein, Osama Bin Laden, Hitler, Stalin, am I ringing any bells here people?). And eventually we're going to have one in our country because you people are a bunch of pussies. I mean, c'mon, Saddam Hussein and his guys were WAY outnumbered by the populous and they were too big of pussies to bring him down. If such a person gets in charge here, OUR FAULT. And while I may not own a gun, I want to be able to get my hands on one fairly quickly. And if I don't, well I hope there are still some Americans left that want to take that person down. Now, you know our military, and if we were ever to get such a person in office, then you should realize that without an equalizer we'll never be able to take them without huge losses of life. I would hope we'd try, but it will be devestating going up against a tank with a baseball bat. Not to mention, any ruler that wants to take away our guns, we should be very afraid of. That person wants unhindered access to a slave population. I am sure YOU think we are too progressive for that and for a revolution, I however am quite willing to realize the foibles of human beings, and that we're not too progressive. We're talking of a group of people who haven't stopped hating, they choose more socially acceptable ways of hating (wishing violence on smokers here lately guys?) Human beings are more than capable of trying to rule over others, and I have proof: Domestic violence. Put that guy in charge of a country, do you really think he's going to treat YOU better than his wife? And don't give me that checks and balances bullshit, hasn't worked to well LATELY now has it? It's quite easy for me to foresee the appearance of a dictator before the end of my own life. Because look at how far the current administration has pushed things and you can't even get the balls up for an IMPEACHMENT. Anyone else is going to look at that and see what I see: Not only will you cheer as you vote a dictator into office, you'll HELP him take your rights away. Fuckin' morons. Our educational system is so fucked up you don't remember how Hitler became the leader of Germany.
So onto my last point: You fools really believe that making guns illegal will help a damn thing. OMFG. You ARE morons. Hello, War on Drugs? Huge War on Drugs, we have guys whose job is to do nothing but catch folks bringing drugs into the country. How come I can take a half hour drive and score any drug under the sun? Oh yeah, that's working out REALLY well. You really think, that a guy determined to go out and cause as much damage as possible in the name of his cause is really going to be stopped by LAWS? Because if you do, you're a bigger idiot than I thought! I mean, he's already on his way to break a couple of laws, do you really think he's going to stop and say "Oh shit, guns are illegal, gotta ditch this plan". As Sophisticat so aptly pointed out (link to your right), people determined to do damage go where? WHERE THERE ARE NO GUNS! So some of you will say he was looking for a chick and he went where the chick was. Well, if the chick had been at a police station, do you really believe he'd have gone THERE and shot up the place? I'd be willing to bet he would have at least thought twice about it, and I'm pretty confident he'd have thought "fuck that". These guys want to go out on THEIR terms. Just because a guy is suicidal doesn't mean it doesn't matter WHERE their suicidal. Case in point, terrorists can be suicidal in the name of a cause..does that mean they will go home and kill theirselves? Hell no, proof, 9/11. They go where they can suicide with a point. It's pointless to suicide in a police station. You'd most likely never meet your main objective. (Actually, the part Sophisticat pointed out is that these people never shoot up police stations because police stations have guns. *I* took it a step further and this is in no way saying he agrees with me.) Only a complete moron could possibly believe that taking away people's guns will stop criminals. Instead it will only declare open season on the populous. Look, I'm from Texas (yeah well, that's not why I support gun ownership. I have my own brain, TYVM and I detest guns, but I'm not so stupid as to not see where their positives are), I see a few things. Like, if you own a gun, you're less likely to get robbed. And generally you only get robbed ONCE, when you shoot the SOB. People tend to see you shoot a guy and think "Shit, then he'll have no problem shooting me too". Not everyone wants to die for a cause or a tv. While you're thinking to yourself "What about all the innocent folk that were accidentally shot with a gun" I can point out the times a citizen with a gun saved a life. And don't bring up that bullshit about "But kids accidentally shoot each other". Would you like to know why? Because YOUR a jackass. EDUCATION. My children can be left alone with guns, except the 1 year old, but in a year, he can be left alone with one too. And why can we leave OUR kids alone with guns? EDUCATION. My kids have always been taught that GUNS are NOT TOYS. They have toy guns, but they recognize the difference between a toy and the real thing, and the one time they saw a toy, we'd already taught them "better safe than sorry" and they didn't touch it. Why? Because education stops a lot of tragedies, and I'm not afraid to RAISE my children to adulthood instead of protecting them from society. I PREPARE my kids for real life. And in real life you should NEVER pick up a gun and investigate it. ASSUME it's what it looks like, a tool that can greatly harm people. It's not different from teaching them not to hit people with daddy's golf clubs. Children are exposed to potential weapons all their lives, and some are quick weapons. Drop a toaster in your bath, not quite as fast as a gun, but faster than stabbing someone and you can completely take them by surprise. So how many kids go dropping toasters into bathtubs "on accident"?
Which brings me to a point I didn't think of: With the fact that you can get on the internet and in less than a minute have the recipe for making your very own homemade bomb, do you really think the lack of access to guns is going to be a big crimestopper? I mean really, how many people can you shoot in a minute vs how many you can blow up in 15 seconds. These people ALWAYS find a way. I suppose you'd have felt much better IF by chance gun illegalization worked, if this guy would have had a bomb instead? We lost at least 32 human beings and what 20 hurt but recoverable with A gun. Bomb? I definitely say the loss of life would be considerably higher.
I hope I've made SOMEONE out there think all this out. I'm not the best speaker in the world, but anyone with half a brain has a good starting off point on each subject. Maybe it's time to abandon the knee jerk screams and put some thought into the actual intelligence (or lack of) in your positions. Of course, many of you won't, you're too stupid, but hey, here's hoping...
Monday, April 16, 2007
Ron Luce
Just go read the article about he and his church in the newest issue of Rolling Stone. I supposed I could cover his idiocy point by point, but I"m not sure where exactly to start. However, if you have half a brain you should be able to read the article and see why I think it should be criminal to teach children religon....ANY religion. I don't care if you're a peaceful Buddha...NO religion, then we can't fall so easily into this type of brainwashing. And for you Christian folk, you know where god said Beware false prophets? I'm pretty certain this is the guy he had in mind...or one very like him...of course for law suit purposes I want you to be sure this is just MY opinion. And in my opinion, I'm offended on behalf of Christians. The real ones, you know Jesus said "Love thy neighbor". The Jesus who wanted peace? Yeah, that guy.
We're talking about a guy who says that his calls for battle "are not a metaphor". And for those of you saying "Rolling Stone had an agenda", this isn't the first time, or the only place I've seen the type of crap Luce spews. I don't need RS for that, quite frankly, I just have to look at the website and know quite enough. Probably because I'm an adult and have an IQ over 50, not blinded by religion. And that's not necessarily to say religion is blinding, but when you leave no room in your head for people of other faith, it just makes it easier to suck you in. You're too busy reading about God to read about the brainwashing techniques used to draw you away from him. And justify it with well, Satan's work. So let's go takea look at the website:
"A stealthy enemy has infiltrated our country and is preying upon the hearts and minds of 33 million American teens. Corporations, media conglomerates, and purveyors of popular culture have spent billions to seduce and enslave our youth. So far, the enemy is winning." --So here's our nebulous enemy. And it includes the whole world! You can't get a good fear induced hysteria without the fear part. And it's cool leaving the enemy pretty vague, because then you can steer your screeching mob to whatever target is pissing you off at the moment. I got a newsflash for you all, most of us could really give a shit who you worship...we don't want to take your wittle god away. If there is any animosity, well, ti's because you're trying to take OURS away. See, if you make America Christian, what's going to happen to those of us that just want to worship our version of god? Yeah, see, THEN we might get mad. But if you just hush up and worship YOUR god, we will hush up and worship ours and all will be well. Why is it only Christians have a problem living beside other faiths in America? Oops, getting sidetracked..moving on.
HUGE EVENTS--It's time to stir up the sheep...tribal drum..er speaker beats, loud music, a building filled with so many you can barely move....it makes you feel closer to GOD! No it doesn't, there's always a huge rush in such a situation. Ask any atheist that has been to a rock concert...yours is just more extreme because you have some idiot stepping in every so often to target your feelings for you. See, we don't have that, frankly because we don't need someone to rile us up for our religion. 1. We do not need to be targetted so we can fill our religion, we don't need to have a big group to be a part of to know our religion is real. We can be totally alone and still feel that our religion is worthwhile. 2. We also do not need a huge group of people to behave just like us so we aren't tempted. We tend to have minds of our own and accept our own blame if we believe we have "sinned". We do not need to blame it on some anti-god.
Testimonials--Ah yes, we need to let you know that it works, even though it never works for you right now, we have some fake stories here that will show you this really works. If it doesn't work for you the fault is in you, not our beliefs. See, this is a nice "trust me" and self flagellation all rolled into one. You are all just dirty sinners, worthless, but that's ok, because god loves you. You are unacceptable, but we accept you anyway. Umm..this is a big fat duh..give the outcasts a place to be accepted, a WAY to be accepted, and most will run after it and buy up all the tinfoil hats. Appealing to the most basic fear in human beings, that noone really accepts us. And when you harass others to come join your crusade, well, you can feel secure as all your intelligent friends abandon you, that its THEM, because you have just tons of friends in brainwash central!
Now, there's one more, but it can't be just some one word thing..no, this is most interesting. If you have a war that includes EVERYTHING around you, then nothing can be trusted. And noone can be trusted, except those in your little group...everyone else is out to tempt you. So you get no exposure to new ideas. Media is against you, your parents, your schoolbooks. All out to "get you". The parent thing is very odd (especially since BattleCry appears to encourage youth to go around parents if necessary) considering one of God's top commandments (#5) says Honour thy mother and thy father. But of course, you're only parent is Father-God...I knewthere was a reason you pray like that.... Anyhow, no exposure to new ideas means noone to disagree with your figurehead. Then he doesn't have to worry about you wising up and taking your money back to the Gap, where he won't get his cut. Not to mention, he gets to keep you in the fold, where you belong, worshipping him.
Y'know, I notice a lot of military language in BattleCry..perhaps a subtle (ok, not so subtle to those of us not brainwashed and with an IQ over 50) way of getting a military mindset. BTW, I watched that commercial with the kids standing around holding signs with their little nuggets of "information" on them. I'd like to know what is with the chick holding "1/3 has been raped"....is that insinuating that it's because you weren't falling down to pray? Because I got a fuckin' newsflash for you: It happens whether you pray or not. ANd it has NOTHING to do with god. I've known a VERY religious, modestly dressed (yes Christian) woman who was raped twice. Does that mean she didn't fuckin' pray hard enough? Fuckin' sickos. And I'm not sure what that "53% of us believed Jesus sinned" means. The only possible thing I can think of is his alleged marriage to Mary Magdalene believed in some circles..and if he was MARRIED to her, then they don't believe he sinned. And "65% of us say there is no way to know which religion is TRUE"..well, newsflash, unless god painted it in neon in the clouds, that's a true statement. We don't. There is NO modern day proof of ANY religion. There is NO scientific proof that one religion has it right.
So yes, I'm watching my children closely. It's bad enough you get the right to subject my child to abuse whenever you like...but if they are going to follow the Christian religion, they are going to do it by Jesus. I'll make damn sure of it.
And if you feel the need to post something hateful, you Christians that so enjoy doing that, please do. I need not only another reason not to become one, but I just LOVE seeing you abandon Jesus and show what you truly are.
We're talking about a guy who says that his calls for battle "are not a metaphor". And for those of you saying "Rolling Stone had an agenda", this isn't the first time, or the only place I've seen the type of crap Luce spews. I don't need RS for that, quite frankly, I just have to look at the website and know quite enough. Probably because I'm an adult and have an IQ over 50, not blinded by religion. And that's not necessarily to say religion is blinding, but when you leave no room in your head for people of other faith, it just makes it easier to suck you in. You're too busy reading about God to read about the brainwashing techniques used to draw you away from him. And justify it with well, Satan's work. So let's go takea look at the website:
"A stealthy enemy has infiltrated our country and is preying upon the hearts and minds of 33 million American teens. Corporations, media conglomerates, and purveyors of popular culture have spent billions to seduce and enslave our youth. So far, the enemy is winning." --So here's our nebulous enemy. And it includes the whole world! You can't get a good fear induced hysteria without the fear part. And it's cool leaving the enemy pretty vague, because then you can steer your screeching mob to whatever target is pissing you off at the moment. I got a newsflash for you all, most of us could really give a shit who you worship...we don't want to take your wittle god away. If there is any animosity, well, ti's because you're trying to take OURS away. See, if you make America Christian, what's going to happen to those of us that just want to worship our version of god? Yeah, see, THEN we might get mad. But if you just hush up and worship YOUR god, we will hush up and worship ours and all will be well. Why is it only Christians have a problem living beside other faiths in America? Oops, getting sidetracked..moving on.
HUGE EVENTS--It's time to stir up the sheep...tribal drum..er speaker beats, loud music, a building filled with so many you can barely move....it makes you feel closer to GOD! No it doesn't, there's always a huge rush in such a situation. Ask any atheist that has been to a rock concert...yours is just more extreme because you have some idiot stepping in every so often to target your feelings for you. See, we don't have that, frankly because we don't need someone to rile us up for our religion. 1. We do not need to be targetted so we can fill our religion, we don't need to have a big group to be a part of to know our religion is real. We can be totally alone and still feel that our religion is worthwhile. 2. We also do not need a huge group of people to behave just like us so we aren't tempted. We tend to have minds of our own and accept our own blame if we believe we have "sinned". We do not need to blame it on some anti-god.
Testimonials--Ah yes, we need to let you know that it works, even though it never works for you right now, we have some fake stories here that will show you this really works. If it doesn't work for you the fault is in you, not our beliefs. See, this is a nice "trust me" and self flagellation all rolled into one. You are all just dirty sinners, worthless, but that's ok, because god loves you. You are unacceptable, but we accept you anyway. Umm..this is a big fat duh..give the outcasts a place to be accepted, a WAY to be accepted, and most will run after it and buy up all the tinfoil hats. Appealing to the most basic fear in human beings, that noone really accepts us. And when you harass others to come join your crusade, well, you can feel secure as all your intelligent friends abandon you, that its THEM, because you have just tons of friends in brainwash central!
Now, there's one more, but it can't be just some one word thing..no, this is most interesting. If you have a war that includes EVERYTHING around you, then nothing can be trusted. And noone can be trusted, except those in your little group...everyone else is out to tempt you. So you get no exposure to new ideas. Media is against you, your parents, your schoolbooks. All out to "get you". The parent thing is very odd (especially since BattleCry appears to encourage youth to go around parents if necessary) considering one of God's top commandments (#5) says Honour thy mother and thy father. But of course, you're only parent is Father-God...I knewthere was a reason you pray like that.... Anyhow, no exposure to new ideas means noone to disagree with your figurehead. Then he doesn't have to worry about you wising up and taking your money back to the Gap, where he won't get his cut. Not to mention, he gets to keep you in the fold, where you belong, worshipping him.
Y'know, I notice a lot of military language in BattleCry..perhaps a subtle (ok, not so subtle to those of us not brainwashed and with an IQ over 50) way of getting a military mindset. BTW, I watched that commercial with the kids standing around holding signs with their little nuggets of "information" on them. I'd like to know what is with the chick holding "1/3 has been raped"....is that insinuating that it's because you weren't falling down to pray? Because I got a fuckin' newsflash for you: It happens whether you pray or not. ANd it has NOTHING to do with god. I've known a VERY religious, modestly dressed (yes Christian) woman who was raped twice. Does that mean she didn't fuckin' pray hard enough? Fuckin' sickos. And I'm not sure what that "53% of us believed Jesus sinned" means. The only possible thing I can think of is his alleged marriage to Mary Magdalene believed in some circles..and if he was MARRIED to her, then they don't believe he sinned. And "65% of us say there is no way to know which religion is TRUE"..well, newsflash, unless god painted it in neon in the clouds, that's a true statement. We don't. There is NO modern day proof of ANY religion. There is NO scientific proof that one religion has it right.
So yes, I'm watching my children closely. It's bad enough you get the right to subject my child to abuse whenever you like...but if they are going to follow the Christian religion, they are going to do it by Jesus. I'll make damn sure of it.
And if you feel the need to post something hateful, you Christians that so enjoy doing that, please do. I need not only another reason not to become one, but I just LOVE seeing you abandon Jesus and show what you truly are.
Tuesday, April 10, 2007
I hate people
Now why you say? WEll, same reason really, they're stupid. Ok, I know some of you out there have seen this: You, or a friend, throw your child a birthday party. You send out invitations to all their classmates. At least one parent drops their kid off and leaves. This parent has never met you before in their life, they've never even SEEN you, but yet they leave their child with you. They won't walk off and leave their wallets/purses with you, but hey, it's just a kid.
WTF??? I've had this happen to me, and of course, friends. Or this one time, oooohhh...this woman drops off her kid, doesn't even get out of the car or wave or anything. If the kid wouldn't have been carrying an invitation I'd have never known she was supposed to be under my care! 4 hours later, that's 2 hours after the birthday party was supposed to have ended, the parents show up. They wonder why I'm still taking care of their daughter, because there was another birthday party right after my daughter's in the same location, and I was suppose to pass the kid off to THOSE people. 1. I didn't know that since the only one who bothered to tell me was 6 years old, and well, I don't feel comfortable taking the word of a 6 year old on where I'm supposed to "dump" her. 2. I'M a responsible person, I would never leave my child or anyone else's with people I don't know. Of course, maybe I'm the asshole, perhaps this little pixie 6 year old knew some major kung fu that put her on a par with a 6'1", 250 lb man. Of course, they rolled their eyes and said "Well she knows these people at the party, they are our neighbors." How the fuck am I supposed to know? Maybe this couple crashes birthday parties to pick up UNMONITORED children for a fuckin' child porn ring.
Anyhow, to the subject again, WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE????!!!! You won't give me your credit card numbers for 5 minutes, why the fuck would you walk off and leave your kid with me for 2 HOURS? Have you lost your fuckin' minds? Are you retarded?? Do you suffer from secret brain damage that allows you to appear totally normal but in all actuality makes you as responsible as a millionaire teenager on crack???? And you know what, if I was to say how much I wanted to kill these people the FBI would investigate ME.
Ok, so I've come up with an idea. Here's what you do: when some fuckin' moronic, disgusting excuse for a human being does this to you, AFTER the party (don't ruin your kid's or some other kid's birthday party), when the fucktards show up to pick up their kid, ask them for their wallet. And when THEY look at YOU like YOU'VE lost your fuckin' mind say, "Well, I figured if you'd leave your kid with me without meeting me you'd trust me with your bank account numbers and American Express. I mean, a kid is much more important than that and if you already trust me that much, I figure it'll be a piece of cake to get your monetary information. Oh, and I'll need your housekeys too."
*goes off mumbling* I really really really fuckin' hate people...
WTF??? I've had this happen to me, and of course, friends. Or this one time, oooohhh...this woman drops off her kid, doesn't even get out of the car or wave or anything. If the kid wouldn't have been carrying an invitation I'd have never known she was supposed to be under my care! 4 hours later, that's 2 hours after the birthday party was supposed to have ended, the parents show up. They wonder why I'm still taking care of their daughter, because there was another birthday party right after my daughter's in the same location, and I was suppose to pass the kid off to THOSE people. 1. I didn't know that since the only one who bothered to tell me was 6 years old, and well, I don't feel comfortable taking the word of a 6 year old on where I'm supposed to "dump" her. 2. I'M a responsible person, I would never leave my child or anyone else's with people I don't know. Of course, maybe I'm the asshole, perhaps this little pixie 6 year old knew some major kung fu that put her on a par with a 6'1", 250 lb man. Of course, they rolled their eyes and said "Well she knows these people at the party, they are our neighbors." How the fuck am I supposed to know? Maybe this couple crashes birthday parties to pick up UNMONITORED children for a fuckin' child porn ring.
Anyhow, to the subject again, WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE????!!!! You won't give me your credit card numbers for 5 minutes, why the fuck would you walk off and leave your kid with me for 2 HOURS? Have you lost your fuckin' minds? Are you retarded?? Do you suffer from secret brain damage that allows you to appear totally normal but in all actuality makes you as responsible as a millionaire teenager on crack???? And you know what, if I was to say how much I wanted to kill these people the FBI would investigate ME.
Ok, so I've come up with an idea. Here's what you do: when some fuckin' moronic, disgusting excuse for a human being does this to you, AFTER the party (don't ruin your kid's or some other kid's birthday party), when the fucktards show up to pick up their kid, ask them for their wallet. And when THEY look at YOU like YOU'VE lost your fuckin' mind say, "Well, I figured if you'd leave your kid with me without meeting me you'd trust me with your bank account numbers and American Express. I mean, a kid is much more important than that and if you already trust me that much, I figure it'll be a piece of cake to get your monetary information. Oh, and I'll need your housekeys too."
*goes off mumbling* I really really really fuckin' hate people...
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